Prior to posting my admittedly feeble attempt at an artistic rendition of Moo-Hammed, I debated with the voices in my head about the possible hypocrisy of mocking Islamist outrage over the Danish cartoons, while maybe expressing outrage over similar anit-Christian mockery, such as "Piss Christ" or the Kanye West cover on the current issue of Rolling Stone. Fair question.
But there are some subtle differences between, say, my reaction to "piss Christ" and the reaction of much of the Muslim world to the Danish cartoons (and presumably our fantastic contributions) and similar expressions of free speech they do not like is that I DON'T RIOT AND KILL PEOPLE.
Outrage is fine. I was outraged at "Piss Christ" and the Virgin Mary splattered with elephant dung exhibit in NYC. I was outraged that there was no NHL season last year. We are all allowed to express outrage and disapproval (that pesky Constitution thingee). But other than the government funding issue, acting out on that outrage is what separates Monkeys from Islamists.
So until Monkey David, Monkey RobbL, and Monkey Brad start burning flags, torching cars, and calling for Jihad, I think I'll live with the hypocrisy charge.
And in the meantime, Buy Danish!
UPDATE: Bounty Offered for Murder of Cartoonists.
Posted by JamesPh. at January 29, 2006 07:32 PMThanks very much for the support! As a Dane, trying to hold the ground under attack from many sides, in this bizarre but explosive case your support is TRULY appreciated!
Just one small correction: It is not "Dutch" cartoons, they are "Danish" (Holland and Denmark are not even neighbors, though the two contries frequently get mixed up in writings).
Posted by: Robbie at January 30, 2006 03:17 AMyea you heard im a muslim
i hope you fuckin burn in hell
i have ur IP Address now and i will soon track you down and kill you
watch out you fucker
watch what you say
WE WILL GET YOU
before you burn...
you disrespectful mother fucker
when did muslims ever offend christians
when you come to think about it all the crap that disappointed you was made by christians
the whole piss christ and virgin mary thing
man seriously you fuckers should die!!!!
Posted by: muslim at January 30, 2006 04:04 AMMay the fleas of a thousand camels lodge in your urethra you infidel pig monkeys of the Great Satan. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!
Posted by: the elder at January 30, 2006 11:13 AMu known what muslims are always angry at.when you see the consequence of your profanity then you will calling on the god you dont give regards to.we are not bastards.we really muslims and dogmatic followers.get that into your senseless head.
Posted by: muslim at January 30, 2006 03:45 PMu known what muslims are always angry at.when you see the consequences of your profanities then you will be calling on the god you dont give regards to.we are not bastards.we are really muslims and not dogmatic followers.get that into your senseless head.i meant
Posted by: muslim at January 30, 2006 03:52 PMI'm wondering: Does the Koran forbid the use of the "shift" key? Is the shift key the infidel's key? Are the Zionist dogs responsible for upper-case letters?
Posted by: Al A. at January 30, 2006 09:06 PM" Let them laugh a little, much will they weep, a recompense for the ( evil ) that they do "[the holy Quran 9:82)
Posted by: muslim at January 30, 2006 10:07 PM" Let them laugh a little, much will they weep, a recompense for the ( evil ) that they do "[the holy Quran 9:82)
Posted by: muslim2 at January 30, 2006 10:07 PMindeed it is a wrong step u have taken my christian brothers. you can laugh all you want but remember , you made fun of the wrong man. you will pay for it when you die, mark my words
Posted by: muslim2 at January 30, 2006 10:09 PMDear friends, What Western people wish to draw about Muhammad & about Muhammadans, seems absolute true, for Muhammad-e-Arabi did exactly the same, in doing satanic sins of Mass Murdering / Blood Shed & Adultery with multiple females & countless slave male & slave female sex partners & had taught the same sins of Adultery & Blood Shed to all his followers. All this Blood Shed & Adultery is shame for us all in our so called Islamic Lands. If Danish Cartoonist or Western people have drawn the evil of Muhammad in Cartoon, then it is for us to think about such spiritual leader, if he really was spiritual or just earthly sinful person like us all in K.S.A (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia). It is time for us all, to decide to follow such Adulterous Muhammad or not. It is time for us all, to decide to follow such Murderous Muhammad or not. West has right to tell us, our those sins, whic h we just think as norm of our so called religious lives, when our minds turn dark and black, not to think the sinfulness of our spiritual leader, who is dead in sin. Your friend, Muhammad Bin Abd Allah from Saudi Arabai
Posted by: Muhammad Bin Abd-Allah at January 31, 2006 12:39 AMTo all people around the world islam is built on respect and Jesus and Merry are a part of the main bases in islam and we respect them as we do to the prophet Mohammad (asws) Jesus is a prophet in islam that he blessed our lifes in agreat way so don't expect us be mocking on him because its one of the greatest sins in our religion and prophet mohammad by the Quraan he protected jesus and other prophet messages who they were sent by God the mighty who doesn't any one share his judgement
Posted by: Ibrahim bin Mohammad Al-Rasheed at January 31, 2006 05:31 PMRight, Ibrahim. Mutual respect for religious faith is what is required here, but it's also critical that the respect is genuine, not motivated by fear. When there are riots and death threats over an offense, it tells us that some muslims are not ready to enter into a modern world. Frankly, I see something that offends my faith almost daily, sometimes very blasphemous depictions of Jesus or Mary. I am right to be offended, but I am not right to threaten to kill those who offend me.
Posted by: Monkey David at February 1, 2006 12:40 PMAs somone who does not believe in any sort of deity and believes that we should live to help and support eachother as members of the human race it seems to me that those who treaten death for a few lines on a piece of paper just predict the end of civilisation as we know it.
The gods of the musilims, christians and jews are all vile and vengfull and obviously derived from the deseased imaginations of manipulative megolomaniacs
As somone who does not believe in any sort of deity and believes that we should live to help and support eachother as members of the human race it seems to me that those who treaten death for a few lines on a piece of paper just predict the end of civilisation as we know it.
The gods of the musilims, christians and jews are all vile and vengfull and obviously derived from the deseased imaginations of manipulative megolomaniacs
As someone who also does not believe in any sort of deity, and who also believes that we should live to help and support each other as members of the human race, it seems to me that you are a tremendous douche.
You claim altruism towards humanity, then immediately take a cheap potshot at the deeply-held beliefs of the great majority of it. It may not be a death threat, but it's every bit as intolerant and it effectively invalidates your point.
People like yourself who are obnoxious just for the sake of pissing people off are half the reason this country his its collective panties in a wad right now.
Posted by: Poochucker at February 1, 2006 05:38 PMi write only to say that we have to stop this hard talk.
in islam, we have to respect all propehts and religions to be a real muslim.
so it is useless to attack christianity, we all like freedom but with the respect of the others.
so these cartoons are ,for many people, a kind of free speech , but for us, muslims, it is an insult for all .
freedom is to say or draw what we want , but with respect of others ,and not seeing from one angle.
what is allowed for danish culture is not the same in muslim culture:so we have to respect each other...
this is the topic, we can put religion a part,because if you dicover islam you will not find any thing about hate and killing and don't forget that muslims are one billion around the world and not a minority who threatens people on the net and defend their religion in a silly way.
thanks for reading.
Danish Cartoon Jihad
In case you missed them – here they are, the Danish Muslims Cartoons the Muslim world is having a massive bitch fit over.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4398/mohammeddrawingsnewspaper18bi.jpg
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=n2em2g
Hey, the shift key IS the infidels' key! The whole uppercase/lowercase distinction was invented by the Greeks, even before they were Christian! Technically, it was invented by idolators and polytheists! no more uppercase1111 9but how will i express my anger/0
Posted by: Ben at February 2, 2006 12:17 PMClearly Muslims feel extremely offended by what non-Muslims look on as quite innocuous.
But then non-Muslims at the very least look askance at a 50yr old man with many wives and even more concubines taking a fancy to 6yr old child as sexual partner and wife by age 9.
Do Muslims have an Islamic term for men with this proclivity?
This is to Muslim who posted at the top. It's assholes like you threating to kill people that harm the impressions that a great deal of people have about your faith.
Try and stop being a tool for 5 minutes...
Posted by: Simon at February 2, 2006 06:48 PMI have just seen the cartoons, and if in this day and age, of when inocent, women and children are killed and mutelated, all over the world by islamic terrorists, the only thing that upsets thier leaders is a cartoon of the profit, then the world dos have a islamic problem to get rid of.
Posted by: phahova at February 3, 2006 04:50 AMYO u Muthafuckers, want to say anythign about my religion then say it to me. U LOW LIFE BASTARDS ILL FUK ALL YA,U GO ON LIKE U DA BEST SUK MY DICK. WE DONT SAY BAD TO OTHER RELIGIONS SO DONT SAY BAD ABOUT OURS
FUKIN DENMARK BITCHES
Posted by: KES at February 3, 2006 07:09 AM"Phahova" gets cloes to the issue here, and the idiot KES confirms it. Cartoons that insult islam apparently justifiably call for violence and death threats. But the actual murders of innocents by terrorists call for . . . understanding?
Posted by: JamesPh. at February 3, 2006 07:16 AMphahova seems to think it is saying something bad about his religion when he knows it's an OK thing that for Muhammad it was not in the least immoral to have sex with a 9 yr old.
So what's bothering you phahova? Don't you subscribe to Muhammad's proclivities yourself?
actually these cartoon pictures are non ethical and they caused a dilemma all over the muslims worldwide ,well is Denmark seeking a dilemma?so even if it should then be an ethical one because we should ask for peace worldwide meaning that we shouldnt hurt eachother and making fun of prophets!!if these pictures were about jescus or any of the other prophets was it going to be a freedom and democracy??
Posted by: Israa Metwally at February 3, 2006 01:26 PMThe world of Islam has attracted my attention. The 'masses' are rioting, but I hope their not all as illiterate and narrow-minded. If they are, it must be due to a shallow gene pool. God help us if they ever rule anymore than their remote controls. Don't threaten my freedom! Bring your little itty-bitty bad-ass over if you can do any more than sleeze around and blow up innocents.
Posted by: Winona at February 3, 2006 02:24 PMCartoons of Mohammad with a bomb in his turban is about "Press Freedom" and should be celebrated...
Cartoons of hook-nosed money grabbing Jews is about "Anti-Semitism" and should be condemned....
Posted by: hass at February 3, 2006 05:21 PMMost people should be able to see that the writings by muslim, muslim2, and KES are obviously fake. They were written by someone who wants everyone to think that muslims are stupid, irrational, hateful, and not really worthy of being anything but an enemy that will be eliminated. Who actually wrote them? Don't know but they are entertaining and give some idea of what people who hate muslims think they are like.
Posted by: Annonym at February 3, 2006 05:41 PM“Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you.” Quran 2:216
“…when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks…” Quran 47:4
“…all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.” Matthew 26:52
“…I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you…” Matthew 5:44
Which of these is from God?
I just want someone to clarity this for me...
If Prophet Muhammed is so great then why does he allow his people to murder innocent people while yelling "Allah is great". Christians doesn't
yell Christ is great and then kill innocent people.
The real issue here is the freedom of speech or
having those freedom in a democratic society exercise those freedoms that your forefathers fought with their lives. Maybe it's time for
muslims to go back to their mother land and have
their forefathers take their democratic beliefs away and be in silent until the day they die.
It's hipocricy for muslims to say Racial when MUSLIMS are the greatest racial of mankind because
they have muslims who are being taught to kill Westerners because they are the enemy of ISLAM.
Christians don't preach that. Christians preached to love your enemies and fogive those
who offended you.
Muslims need to police their mind and soul from HIPOCRISY and TERRORISTIC VALUES before they criticize a Cartoon depecting their prophet.
Hey Muslim,
You sound like an intelligent, loving, kind, and God fearing man.
Can you tell me who Isa Al Masih is ?
Muslim.
Have you ever thought, if it wasn´t for the God given technology of the Western world,(which you so despise) you´d still be posting by carrier pigeons !?
If you so love your "idol" mohammed, then stay in mecca and stop using western benefits.
Hyporcrite, you even speak English. I wouldn´t even take the time to learn about another culture, not alone wanting to live among its people, if I hated and despised it so much.
I have a suggestion, send a request to NASA and volunteer the whole muslim nations to be the first settlers and colonisers of Mars. Maybe then there would be more PEACE on Earth and good will to all mankind !!!
Until then Murderer, P..c be on you mohammed and all your kind,........ from a very great height !
Or, walk away in short jerking movements !
You keep on whining, you stupid muslim cry babies. In the West, when someone whines like an infant, we make fun of them even more.
You can't force people to respect you. You have to earn it and right now, you are doing the opposite. The smartest thing you could do would be to call for your fellow muslims to calm down and stop making asses of themselves. Your constant death threats just make you look like savages. If allah doesn't like the fucking cartoon then let him deal with it directly by hurling a lightning bolt at the cartoonists who drew them. Why is it that your god doesn't seem to have any power on his own and needs dipshit fantic rugbiters like you all to do his dirty work?
In conclusion, mohammed and allah and kiss my hairy white ass. Mo-boy can get on his knees five times a day and suck my fat cock.
I miss the penis enlargement spam.
Posted by: Monty at February 4, 2006 01:36 PMWhat offends me is the sight of people marching through my country's capital with banners celebrating the slaughter of totally innocent people on 7/7 and calling them the fantastic four.Don't you realise the only time we see Muslims it is always connected with hatred and intolerance the only impression ordinary people get about your faith is one that seems to wallow in death and hatred. One of the banners stated To hell with democracy but you choose to live in this democratic and free country.How come??
Posted by: Paul at February 4, 2006 03:41 PMTHE ONLY GOOD MUSLIM IS A DEAD MUSLIM. WHY? CAUSE WHEN THEY ARE DEAD, THEY CAN'T COMPLAIN AND THEY ARE HUMPING THEIR 72 VIRGINS(SHEEPS OR GOATS). THAT IS THE CAUSE OF THEIR HATRED TOWARDS THE REST OF THE WORLD OR NON MUSLIM INFIDELS. LACK OF SEX TOWARDS THEIR SHEEPS AND GOATS. BESTIALITY WAS STARTED BY MUHAMMED AND TITLED IT HOLY(COW)KORAN. I GUESS HE LIKED BIG AND BEAUTIFUL. WHEN HE SCREWED A VIRGIN SHEEP( FIRST RECORDED RAPE), THAT'S WHEN HE DREAMT OF HEAVEN. HE THOUGHT HE WAS IN HEAVEN. SO THAT'S HOW THE KORAN WAS FORMED, FROM SCREWING SHEEP. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY MUSLIMS WOULD "BLOW" THEMSELVES UP(SELF LOVE ISLAMIC MASTURBATION)SO THEY CAN GO TO HEAVEN AND SCREW 72 VIRGINS WITH THE PRIME CHOICE OF SHEEP, GOAT OR EVEN A COW, WHOM HINDUS HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR. THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND WHO STOLE THEIR COW...IT WAS THE MUSLIMS, THAT'S WHY THE PAKISTANI'S HAVE BEEN WARRING AGAINST THE HINDUS IN INDIA.
SO I GUESS, MUSLIMS DO WORSHIP "HINDUS" AND ARE JEALOUS OF THEIR RELIGION CAUSE THEY HAVE THE HOLY COW. PLUS MUSLIMS WOULD LIKE TO GET REINCARNATED AND COME OUT OF CAMEL'S ASS AND TURN INTO AN
"ASS!" THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AT IT IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
TO THE MUSLIM TERRORIST THREATENING TO KILL THE DANISH PEOPLE HERE OR OTHER COMMENTATORS.
TRY COMING TO THE U.S. AND BETTER THAT THE FEDERAL POLICE LIKE THE FBI CATCHES YOU THEN SAY THAT CRAP OR THREATEN US ASIANS, WE WILL BEHEAD YOU OURSELVES IF WE WERE IN OUR ORIGINAL LANDS IN ASIA. WE ARE SUPERIOR FIGHTERS THAN YOU ARE AND YOU ARE THREATENING NOT ONLY WHITES BUT ASIANS THAT ARE KUNG FU WARRIORS AND ESKRIMADORS.
KEEP AT IT MUSLIMS AND ALL OF ASIA, EUROPE, SOUTH AMERICA EXCEPT FOR A FEW DICTATORS, WILL UNIT TO ANNIHILATE YOUR MUSLIM WORLD. THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS PISS OF AN ASIAN OTHER THAN AN IDIOTIC SELL OFF INDONESIANS.
OTHER RACES WILL UNITE TO DESTROY THE THREAT CALLED ISLAM/MUSLIMS. IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE DENOUNCE MUHAMMED AND BURN YOUR KORANS OR BETTER YET RECYLE IT CAUSE THE TREES NEED THEIR WOOD BACK, IT'S A WASTE OF NATURAL RESOURCE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND TO "RECYCLE" ALL THE KORANS IN THE WORLD, WE CAN EITHER RECYCLE MUSLIMS OR REEDUCATE THEM IF THEY STOP THEIR HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF RETARDEDNESS. THE BEST SOLUTION FOR STOPPING AN ISLAMIC THREAT IS TO REVIVE HITLER/IMPERIAL JAPAN AND LET THEM HANDLE THE PSYCHOTIC MUSLIMS WHO CAN ONLY DESIGN AND INVENT TERRORISM. GREAT CIVILIZATION MY ASS! THE LAST THOUSAND YEARS ALL THEY EVER DEVELOPED WAS A LEATHER STRAP TO HOLD A FRENCH, GERMAN OR RUSSIAN BOMB. IF THEY WERE SMART, THEY WOULD STRAP ON A DILDO AND POKE 72 VIRGINS INSTEAD OF KILLING THEM FOR HAVING 3 INCHES OF SKIN EXPOSED, THAT'S WHY THEY LIKE 72 VIRGIN SHEEP SO MUCH BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF FUR OR CLOTHING CALLED WOOL!
EVERY MUSLIM I COME ACROSS WITH IN THE U.S. TALKS AND ACTS LIKE THIS IDIOT THREATENING EVERYONE, WHICH BY THE WAY A CRIME IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD
TO US ASIANS, A THREAT IS A CHALLENGE. WE HAVE MANY WEAPONS TO DEAL WITH YOU COWARDS. BETTER THAT IT'S HAND TO HAND COMBAT, IT'S MORE PERSONAL.
AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS AND ALL OF ASIA IS LAUGHING AT THE APE LIKE BEHAVIOR MUSLIMS ARE DISPLAYING..NOTHING NEW, THEY DID THAT WITH THE HOSTAGES IN IRAN AND BEIRUT IN THE 70'S AND 80'S!
THEY ALWAYS FIND WAYS TO HATE WESTERN AND EASTERN WORLD. THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO ISOLATE THE MIDDLE EAST, TAKE THEIR GOOD LOOKING WOMEN AND MAKE THEM ALL STRIPPER IN HOLLAND AND FRANCE, THEN YOU CAN CALL IT "MISS WORLD!" AND I'M SURE MANY HERE REMEMBER THE MUSLIMS RIOTING AND PUTTING A FATWAH AND JIHAD OVER SOME FEMALE WRITER SAYING SOMETHING POSITIVE THAT MUHAMMED WOULD HAVE TAKEN AS WIVES ANY OF THE CONTESTANTS. WHAT DID THE MUSLIMS DO,
ATTACKED CHRISTIANS AND GAVE HER A DEATH THREAT.
WE SHOULD NUKE AND GAS ALL THE MUSLIMS IF THEY CONTINUE THEIR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
THEY ARE THE INVENTORS OF RACISM. KKK'S, NEO NAZI'S IMPERIAL JAPANESE ARE ANGELS COMPARED TO MUSLIMS AND THAT SHOWS YOU HOW HORRIBLE AND EVIL MUSLIMS ARE! THE REAL DEVIL IS YOUR ALLAH...ALLAH BA BA OR MOO HAM MED...YOU PEOPLE DO EAT PORK, CAUSE YOU WORSHIP A "HAM!"
MUSLIMS, KISS MY ASIAN ASS AND ALL OF ASIAN'S ASS STARTING WITH THE INDONESIANS. UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF OUR ISLANDER MIX ARE INDONESIANS IN PHILIPPINE HISTORY, BUT THEY AREN'T MUSLIMS AND THAT'S THE GOOD PART. we're more chinese and spanish mix..
CRUSADE ANYONE?
"THE ONLY GOOD MUSLIM IS A DEAD MUSLIM."
Aaaand the moral high ground about "We don't make death threats" is gone.
Posted by: Monty at February 4, 2006 04:15 PM"We" don't make death threats. There is a difference between jerks like "asian" and the thousands and thousands of radical islamists around the world who are rioting and issuing death threats. There really is no comparison.
I'm inclined to delete "asian's" comment because it is so vile and hateful. Not sure, though.
Posted by: JamesPh. at February 4, 2006 04:46 PMIf we delete it, we should probably replace it with a tasteful summary. I'd hate for Monty's reply to lose its context. The rhetorical "Aaaand" completely cracked me up.
Does anyone else find that asian's comment makes much more sense when you read it in a mock-bad-Chris Rock voice? (Not saying anythhing abbout Rock or race. It's just the delivery.)
Posted by: Monkey Brad at February 4, 2006 05:09 PMThrow in some "muthafuckas" and gangsta hand jive and . . . nope, won't work: Yellow men can't jump.
Posted by: Average White Guy at February 4, 2006 06:34 PMI don't know... all this seems so ridiculous. It's just... it's so unbelievably cyclical.. these ridiculous fights are the same ones that have gone on for thousands of years with absolutely no purpose, no it's not the fight between good and evil, but of the ignorant vs ignorant. People let convictions dictate their reasoning... and i don't mean their religious convictions... it seems only a small amount of people who claim to be religious actually truly embrace their religion.. instead it's used as some ego booster (so used for instrumental reason rather than intrinsic). I see the crazy Christian right bash gays and use 'their' God as some kind of logistical support, but if they even cracked open the sections of the bible that bash gays in the same breath it advocates murder, murder for ppl who aren't christian, for ppl who wear two different types of material at the same time, if you have a tattoo, or if you've shaved the hair from your temple. Yet i don't see any crazy crusades to stop people from wearing two types of materials for clothing at the same time, and why not, it's spoken with the same vehemence as the homophobia is? Sounds ridiculous doesn't it... it's because it is. Hey, don't take my word for it, look it up yourself. The truth is, religion evolved for various reasons and many of them are political. Islam, Christianity and Judaism all originate from Abraham, and many of their modifications throughout history is due to political motivation. Also economic,... various foods were forbidden/imposed due to market fluxuations and trade relations. Some marital definitions were created in order to support aspects of the economy, such as inheritance, social class, prestige. K... if you really truly have a spiritual inclination to truth don't be so fucking scared to do a little research and put the pride and convictions aside, and grow a little. And, if there really is some spirit/energy/god out there, don't you think it would ascend beyond human-bound ignorance and adhere to greater universal truths? So what fight is it that's being fought here...? Now let's all take a deep breath before our heads explode, and stop fighting some retarded fight started by our power-hungry ancestors. Dare to think for yourself. Kierkegaard regards courage as the ability to think a thought through to its end, in spite of its outcome or disturbance of truth. It is this form of courage, that brings us forward, and helps break these insane cycles. But hey, what do i know.
Posted by: Nicci at February 4, 2006 08:00 PMBut hey, what do i know.
No idea. I have a strict rule not to read run-on paragraphs over 60 sentences in length.
Posted by: Poochucker at February 4, 2006 08:28 PMI think I agree with Nicci, the major religions have all been corrupted by men in power. The Knights Templar were rounded up and killed because the king of France got the Pope at the time to help him so they could split the Templars assets. The Cathars were hunted down in a Crusade pitting one group of Christians against another because the Cathars believed a little differently than the ruling group. If you look back at history you find that government and religion go hand in hand. What better way to control a crowd than by controlling their fate in the afterlife. People fear the unknown they want to believe there is something after death. No one wants to believe that you are born and you die and that maybe that is it. What I fail to understand is if your religion is truly right then what is the point of all of this strife, won't it all work out in the end. If your religion is right you go to Heaven or wherever and everyone else burns in Hell. Perhaps everyone is wrong and we all burn in Hell. Perhaps there is no Hell or no Heaven and we all just die and become part of the Earth. All most people want is to be left alone to live their life as they choose. So why can't believers in different religions just let them.
Posted by: stormbringr at February 4, 2006 09:24 PMMethinks this last comment reads an awful lot like the previous one from "Nicci." Or at least, I assume it would if I could bring myself to actually read these two long-winded lumps of sanctimonous drivel.
Posted by: Poochucker at February 4, 2006 09:54 PMTo Muslim...
I am not sure why you hate other people other than MUSLIMS so much. If you truly are a MUSLIM,
which you say you are and sounds a proud one too,
then why don't you heed to what your holy bible say? Does your Bible say IT IS OKAY TO KILL THE ENEMY OF ISLAM? You express your feelings in a murderous way and i don't quite understand what are you trying to accomplish by using murderous words. ARE YOU AN ISLAMIC, FUNDAMENTALIST or EXTREMIST MUSLIM because if you are NOT one of THESE Murderous MUSLIMS i just mentioned then
probably the best thing for you to do is go find them and preach them the true meaning of your BIBLE. YOU DON'T SAY ALLAH IS GREAT THEN KILL YOURSELF AND DRAG INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH YOU. ANYBODY WHO PREACHES THAT KILLING YOURSELF AND INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN IS A FALSE PROPHET....I HOPE PROPHET MUHAMMED DIDN'T PREACH THIS TO THE MUSLIMS.
To JamesPH...
I would recommend that you keep ASIAN'S comment
for expressing his feelings and thoughts about
the whole issue. Although, I would recommend that others should start posting their comments based on the topic and start using non-fiction examples
direct and sensible.
Lost Verses of the Koran
DELETED BECAUSE IT WAS THE LONGEST COMMENT IN BLOG HISTORY. HONESTLY, YOU GOT THAT MUCH TO SAY, YOU NEED YOUR OWN BLOG. AND IT MADE NO SENSE.
Posted by: at February 5, 2006 01:29 AMASSALAMU ALEIKUM.. I READ THE MANY COMMENTS THAT INSULTED THE RELIGION OF ISLAM.. BUT I WANT TO TELL ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE OUT OF IGNORANCE, THAT YOU ARE BUT ONE AMONG A MILLION, AND YOUR WAY OF THINKING WITHOUT GENUINE FACTS ABOUT ISLAM IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. IT'S LIKE MAKING A CONCLUSION WITH GETTING A HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONCEPT. I READ, HOWEVER I WAS NOT AT ALL DISTURBED BY THE COMMENTS, CUZ THEY WERE REALLY SHALLOW AND REALLY SHOWED HOW IGNORANT SOME PPL ARE ABOUT ISLAM.. REALLY. I ADVICE U TO LEARN ABOUT IT,MANY OF U ARE REJECTING WHAT I AM ADVISING U.BUT ONCE AGAIN U ARE REJECTING CUZ OF IGNORANCE.IF THE NAME OF THIS HOLY RELIGION WASN'T ISLAM , I M SURE YOU WOULD HAVE TRIED LEARING ABOUT IT. TO ALL MY MUSLIM SISTERS, AND BROTHERS OUT THERE, STAY STRONG AND PEACEFUL. CUZ ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE AND KNOWLEDGE.. MAY GOD GUIDE YOU, AND MAY YOUR INTENTIONS BECOME ISLAMIC AND THE IGNORANT INTENTIONS ..
WAL SALAMU A3LAYKON TO ALL PPL OF THE WORLD. MAY PEACE COME UPON US ALL.
ZENA
How many religions are there? There can only be one true faith.(one true god and creator) Faith is a personal thing. You make your mind up which god you wish to worship (if any) and you take the consequencies. All I ask is that you don't try and stuff your beliefs down my throat. Religion should be allowed to flourish in any decent society. But when religion tries to dictate our society we all have a problem. Worship who you want but please keep it a personal issue between you and your God. Any other issues should be dictated by our democratically elected representatives in government. That is freedom. Freedom to express an opinion. Freedom to agree or disagree with anyones opinion without fear of reprisal. I'm a free man in a country I'm proud of. A tollerant society which allows anyone to follow and express their beliefs. All I ask is that other residents of our country accept the same principles.
Posted by: pete at February 5, 2006 07:00 PMfree speech is under attack.I dont like a lot of things I hear,but well thats life.The idea that you can kill people because they drew a drawing you dont like is ridiculous.Full support for the news paper and i hope the danish govt does not kowtow to extremists. brook from canada
Posted by: brook at February 5, 2006 08:39 PMFull support to the paper. I believe that Freedom of Speech is under attack as well. Believe or not, in my country, I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want to. For people to respect Islam, you have to respect our right to freedom of expression. I won't keep my mouth shut just because you're offended. Deal with it.
Posted by: dan at February 5, 2006 11:54 PMFirstly, I stand 100% with my Danish European brothers. You guys have taken enough - you don't need Muslim intimidation in your great country. I wish you the best of luck with this increasingly tense situation.
As for you Muslims - Mohammed is a fat, lazy piece of shit who deserves nothing more than to be showered in the rotting remains of a pig while being. You guys are all very stupid to follow such a phony. Islam is, after all, a phony religion based on a drunken savage (aka Mohammed)
Sorry, but you deserved that. So does your phony prohpet. May you all be tainted with decomposing pig remains upon dying. :) Now you know what it feels like to walk all over people.
Posted by: Winston Cunningham at February 6, 2006 02:04 AMTo Zena....
Ignorance? The question is how do you define ignorance? Where in the world can you find a RELIGION that openly threaten the lives of other people? Why is it that when your MUSLIM brothers and sisters YELL DEATH to the westerners or
Israels, or whoever offends your gods and prophets, you are nowhere there to STOP them. Is
it because you are scared of your own MUSLIM brothers and sisters? Scared of what they can do to you? Is it because you condone the killing or your ignorance makes you not to get involved and stop these insensible acts.
Muslims are ignorant of their own religion because they preach violence or even worst Death
to anyone who offends them. If you can't even
stop the muslim brothers and sisters who kill themselves and innocent people, how do you expect
the world to respect your prophet and your religion. PLEASE NAME A MUSLIM COUNTRY THAT IS
PEACEFUL RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT...... I AM SORRY but i can't even name one right now...It's IGNORANCE among the MUSLIM world that's making
their people become ignorant. Don't judge (such
as death) so you don't be judged.
The crux of this whole issue is the drawing of pictures of Mohammed. These pictures are not even aimed at Mohammed, they are clearly satirising fundamentalism and religious hatred. The idea, I believe, behind publishing these pictures was to expose the hipocrisy in fundamentalist Islam. Surely sensible Muslim leaders and Muslims can see that although blasphemous, these cartoons carry a strong message and one which needs to be discussed... sensibly... without threatening to kill one another.
There is fundamentalism in all religions and it invariably results in contradiction and confusion. I have utter respect for Muslims and know that 90% of them are sensible, well-balanced people. However, when one stops making decisions for oneself and hands responsiblility over to a single man who lived in very different times to these,
problems will arise.
Uh, Where did Muslim go ?
Hey, did you hear the joke:
What does the Western World call someone who has sex with a nine year old ?
Answer: A Piadophile !
What does the Middle East call someone who has sex with i nine year old ?
Answer: mohamed the prophet !
I just love English Humour !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ilvera at February 6, 2006 05:23 AMHey, John Macbeth.
Maybe you should try saying that at the muslim convention in mecca, when they´re walking round that big black box !
No, don´t, Because the majority of us would certainly know your fate ! that´s just the point.
When these narrow minded dimwits realise Isa Al Masih is Jesus the Christ and He returns, only then will there be peace on Earth. Until then, satan continues to thrive and the chaos continues.
To the person who calls himself "muslim", just let me say that your words actually serve to validate the cartoonists by proving that you are a bunch of murderer trash that should be sequestered to the pathetic desert you came from and forbidden to leave. How dare you come to our nations in the West, enjoy the fruits and blessings that God has bestowed on us and then turn around and threaten us. You are a classic example of an ignorant muslim piece of trash that completely lacks any sense of gratitude for the opportunity to live in the west. So take my IP address. Find me. I will terminate your existence with prejudice, mark my words. And just for fun, since you like to quote scripture, let me slap you across the face with the bottom of the Holy Spirit's shoe:
"Many false prophets (Mohammed) and false christs will come and decieve many..." (Matthew 24:24)
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!" (Galatians 1:8-9)
You are scum "muslim". I will declare right here, right now that Mohammed is a follower of Satan who transcribed and distributed by force Satan's gospel. When the angel appeared to Mohommed with the words Mohammed was to write, that was not Gabriel, it was actually Lucifer (Satan), a liar and the father of lies. So remember every time you read your Quran that you are reading the dictated words of Satan himself. The truth is only found in Jesus. Now I know that right now in your rotten black heart, you harbor desire to commit violence against me. This should be your first clue that you follow of religion that is evil. Because a "tree is judged by its fruit" and "out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks." This is the reason why the muslim world is desolate and destitute--because God will not bless a people that attempts to kill those who seek Him.
Another item to analyze is the double standard muslims have with us. They can do whatever they want to a westerner in their own country, up to and including killing him without punishment. But when some guy draws a cartoon, the whole muslim world starts convulsing in the streets with violent, murderous rage--like animals. At this point I have no inclination to care whatsoever about how muslims feel about the cartoons or any other free speech including this post. As a matter of fact, I hope it makes muslims mad, so mad they go crazy. It privately makes me happy to know that some muslim somewhere is reading this is going crazy with rage in his desire to commit violence against a non-muslim (me, in this case). To that muslim I say that I hope you choke on your rage and have a stroke.
And as for free speech. Those with religious beliefs should never be allowed to prevent people from saying whatever they want about anything they want--including islam. It makes me sick to see muslims be allowed into western countries and then the first thing they do is demand that people not say anything bad about Islam or Mohammed. It is clear that the answer for the islamofascists is: "To bad." I applaud all the newspapers who ran the cartoons for their bravery. This is serious because the cartoonists now have a few hundred million hyenas that now want to kill them. It's too bad they're European because in the US, no muslim would ever voice such a threat because they know they'll get the steel. But in Europe the governments don't believe in the right to self-defense against people like 'muslim'.
We should not allow muslim anger to change our freedom of speech. Let the barbarians burn down their neighborhoods and stomp on each other in anger. As long as they continue to do that, everyone will be reminded what the cause of the war on terror is:
The cause of the war on terror is that Muslims lack the capacity to live in peace with non-Muslims.
Every land where Muslims live with non-Muslims is a land riddled by violence. The Muslim world is ring of fire with the middle burned out and desolate like a forest fire and open flames on the edges. It keeps spreading and spreading until there is no more fuel. Because muslims cannot live peacefully with non-muslims.
Have a nice day. :)
Muslim Myths:
Unreasonable Muslim fanatics are a minority.
That’s why entire countries are cutting diplomatic ties with the Danes… over a cartoon! Why thousands around the world protest 12 stupid cartoons, but none protest their brethren’s acts of terrorism, suicide bombings and decapitations.
Muslim’s respect all other faiths and cultures.
Check out http://www.memri.org. Huge site with vast archives of how the West, Jews and Christians have been slandered in the Muslim media. Check out their video archives and the 28 episodes of an Iranian soap opera depicting Jewish rabbis abducting children to use their blood to make religious bread.
That’s why non-muslims visiting a muslim country have to pay a “protection” tax, are forbidden to enter a mosque, and are treated far worse than Muslims are treated in Europe or the US.
Mohammed is the prophet of peace.
Mohammed was an ambitions mercenary that knew that the best way to get loyal followers to fight for him was to make himself into a prophet, a pseudo deity. And once he had the followers… to war he went!
Mohammed is he prophet of love.
Love indeed, for his many wives, slaves, concubines, and the children he would rape. Not for their rights though! And no puppy love either. It’s a decree in the hadith that dogs are dirty and all the black ones should be killed on sight.
Islam is the religion of peace and love.
But the penalty for leaving Islam is death.
Muslims are peaceful people.
That’s why they currently have conflicts with everyone, including other Muslim factions. That’s why the Majority of Palestinians voted for the Hamas!
That’s why they are out protesting now, frothing at the mouth and embarrassing themselves over their lack of restraint. Had they ignored the cartoons, websites like these would not have popped up,:
http://www.retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/001570.html
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/
Had it not been for yor reactions, people like myself would have continued believing the above myths.
Thank you for opening my eyes.
MUSLIMS, do yourself a favor and quit being Muslims.
ALL MUSLIMS YOUNG AND OLD ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF THE RADICALS.
GO TO GOOGLE TYPE IN (BLONDS,NORWAY,MUSLIM,RAPE).
Nice how the new muslim immigrants on welfare rape the locals
stone the ambulances and beat up the old people in their community. Oh and leftist government puts you in jail for saying anything about stopping the Muslims from doing this.
EUROPE DEFEND YOUR WOMEN NOW. BE MEN, PROTECT THEM.
First of all, i'd just like to say that everyone that is dissing islam and muslims i feel so sad for you , making fun of another religion aint gona get you no were, it aint gonna hurt me nor any other muslim that is view all tha comments made from both sides, its sad to see muslims rampaging across countries and torching embassies of forign gorvernments , its also sad to see that so called ( muslims ) making death treats to the cartooniest, in every religion theres has to be a bad person in it , in islam its tha fanatics that are murdering human beings in cold blood, islam is a religon of peace and tolorences, just koz a car had an accident it dosnt mean you should blame the car, the driver is whom to blame .. as we have seen, islam is tha hardiest religion for preist and mission to convert ppl e.g muslim converted to christain, as we have seen in the dutch movie maker van guo wat ever his name was was murderd my a fanatic muslim because he made a movie mocking islam and that islam is anti - women.. he also had a lady strapped by a horse wipe while she had some quranic verseson her body.... we should all live in harmony and repect one another because we all knoe that at the end we are have gonna get used to one another
Posted by: aussie muslim at February 7, 2006 03:11 AM
ONE SHULD HAVE KNOWN NOT TO INSLUT ISAM LIKE THAT BE4 PUBLISHING CARTOONS WHICH MOCK THA HOLY PROPHET, AND ONE SHUD HAVE KNOWN THE ONLY KNOWN PREIST ARE KNOWN TO MOLESTER CHILDREN WHOM WERE IN THER " CARE ", SAD TO SEE THAT A HOLY FATHER (PREIST OR BISHOP) HAVING INTIMATE INTERCOURSE WITH THE " CHILDREN OV CHRIST",,,, ONE ISNT A MUSLIN IF HE DOSNT BELIVE IN THE BIBLE, I AM A PRACTISING MUSLIM, AND IF I DENY THA BIBLE I AINT A MUSLIM BUT THA BIBLE HAS BEEN CHANGED ALOT IN THA LAST 2000 YEARS
I AINT ANTI- CHRSITIAN BUT LETS GET THA FACTS RIGHT BEFORE WE ACCUSE ANYBODY ( PROPHET) OF BEING A PEODHFILE WHILE CHIRSTAIN BISHOPS RAPE AND MOLESTOR CHILDREN THAT THEY CUD BE GRAND FATHER TOO... LOOOL AT ALL THA ANTI - MUSLIM ATTITUDE MAN YOUR JUST WASITING UR TIME AND ENGERY CAUSE WE REALLY DONT CARE,,,, AND THIS GOES TO ASIAN....... ASIAN WHY DONT YOU JUST SHUT THA FUCK UP AHAHAHAHA SHII MAN
DAMASCUS (SYRIA) WAS THE FIRST CIVILISED CITY BULIT .. CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE THE FIRST DOCTORS .... CHECK
MUSLIMS INVENTED GADGETS WHICH INHANCED EUROPEAN CITEZENS LIVILY HOOD.... CHECK
MUSLIMS INVENTED THE CLOCK ..... CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE THE WORLD RENOUNED PHYSICIANS.... CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE WORLD RENOUNED CHEMISTS ... CHECK
MUSLIMS OUT CLASSED ANY MATHMATICAINS IN THIER FIELD .... CHECK
ALL YOU WESTERN PEOPLE HAVE ADOPTED OUR TECHINQUES WHICH YOUS LATER HENCED AND MADE GREAT ADVANCES IS AN ADVANTAGE WHICH SHOULD BE APRIICIATED ... SOO IF WE MADE ALL THIS FIRST DISCOVRIES AND ALL WHY ME MUSLIMS SOOOOO BEHIDE IN MORDEN TECHINOLGY ... THATS SO FUCKING UP !!
Posted by: omar at February 7, 2006 03:27 AM911 is unforgiven ayyy man no need to put tha spotlight in a sick guy who raped a female or two..... check thios out ... go to ur t.v and check out tha news on tha guys ( christains) who rape their daughters, mother , who eat other people ( in tha case of the german sicko who did it ) go and kill schoool mates ( columbus high) who are children sex offenders man i could name a thosuand of this shit .. just coz one dude done it it dont mean tha rest do it.... shiii
Posted by: omar at February 7, 2006 03:34 AMThrow them all out of the western world !
Muslims.
I thought the cartoons were funny as shit! Why all the outrage over a cartoon ? You muslim fanatics need to realize that if someone has a different view, its a free world. I guess we, the ones who have not been brainwashed by you're stupid views on religion should be scorned ? I guess its ok to let girls die in a fire because while trying to escape, they were unable to find their veils right ? Fuck you loser! The prophat mohamid was a pedophile, drug addict and sinner. Go smoke some opium, I will be busy taking a piss on the koran! LOL
AAAAAAAAAA, so what are ya going to do about it pussy! Email me if you like, if you know how to email ya dipshit!
DAMASCUS (SYRIA) WAS THE FIRST CIVILISED CITY BULIT .. CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE THE FIRST DOCTORS .... CHECK
MUSLIMS INVENTED GADGETS WHICH INHANCED EUROPEAN CITEZENS LIVILY HOOD.... CHECK
MUSLIMS INVENTED THE CLOCK ..... CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE THE WORLD RENOUNED PHYSICIANS.... CHECK
MUSLIMS WERE WORLD RENOUNED CHEMISTS ... CHECK
"MUSLIMS OUT CLASSED ANY MATHMATICAINS IN THIER FIELD .... CHECK
ALL YOU WESTERN PEOPLE HAVE ADOPTED OUR TECHINQUES WHICH YOUS LATER HENCED AND MADE GREAT ADVANCES IS AN ADVANTAGE WHICH SHOULD BE APRIICIATED ... SOO IF WE MADE ALL THIS FIRST DISCOVRIES AND ALL WHY ME MUSLIMS SOOOOO BEHIDE IN MORDEN TECHINOLGY ... THATS SO FUCKING UP !!"
Stop using the infidel key.
And also - which MUSLIM country is trying to harness the bounty that is WHITE, WESTERN nuclear discovery? Iran, your pride and joy.
Look at Pakistan - another sign of Muslim 1st world civilisation. No poverty or anything there, right guys??
The middle-east is a mess - europe is a clean, orderly 1st world continent (lesser now that you muslims came). The only things you invented were strictly limited by your heinous religion, which basically prohibits scientific advances.
Muslims are nothing but a bunch of terrorists. A nuke will silence these bastards. I hope India nuke these bastards into oblivion.
Posted by: Indian at February 7, 2006 09:37 PMHOLY PEOPLE DON´T SHAG LITTLE GIRLS !
MOHAMMED IS NOT HOLY, HE´S A SINNER !
THE RELIGION HE FOUNDED IS NOT FROM GOD.
(BUT TRY TELLING THAT TO A FANATICAL MUSLIM WHO´S
HEART IS FULL OF THE DEVIL)
WILL HE UNDERSTAND YOU ?
TWO HOPES, BOB HOPE AND NO HOPE !
ISA AL MASIH IS JESUS THE CHRIST !!!
WAKE UP !!!
In early news there has been a publication in the Danish Newspaper of a cartoon depicting the prophet Muhammed as a terrorist pedophile, their has been great dilemma among Muslims who consider these images of prophet Muhammed as no ordinary criticism but as anti-Semitism. Muslims consider it as stigamaticism; very similar to the way Hitler stigmatizes the Jews. While I believe in freedom of press, I wonder if this crosses the line. We must understand that every country or even religion have their own idealism that must be respected. But I do not agree with Muslims that are threatening to kill or even bomb the individuals or country that created these images; there is much less violent way to respond to these images. This really has been blown out of proportion by the politics in Iran.
Posted by: mexicanamerican at February 10, 2006 12:14 PMHOnestly... I really think all of this isgetting way out of hand! Yet, I cannot blame people around the world to think and feel what they do about Muslims. It is seriously their own fault. Not only that.. the Danes are really very very very into their Human Rights and everything. For those of you who do not know about the headscarf issue in Denmark..well long story short... girl wanted to be a hairdresser.Hairdresser's usually are supposed to have funky and nice hairstyles as they are like "displaying" the lastest designs and so on.. And eventhough one person didn't think it was fair to implement this rule on all Danes/non-Danes or ppl who worked there and not implement the same rule on a muslim girl who wanted to wear the headscarf.. this man got in trouble..as he was being "racist!"..the Danish govdid do something about it..and that girl is happily wearing the headscarf while doing her job! SO pls...it is not some racist thing to purposely povoke Islam. But seriously.. Islam does not preach death(at least the on i've read not the altered version of man!) yet it's the Muslims ..the followers of Islam who are here bringing Islam a bad name! They do horrid,inhuman things over really idiotic things. COme on.. this is NOT the first time..religion has been made fun of! Every religion and its people have been made fun! THink SOuth Park for example! Yet... as soon as something is said about Islam there is all this hue-and-cry? WHy the double-standards? Why don't they have a sense of humour? WHy can't they take things with stride? We mock ourselves and we mock you! Hey it's all in the name of fun! Take it with a pinch of salt..and if it pisses you off.. be well... CIVILISED! And proove those cartoons wrong! CAuse right now..the only thing you are showing to the world ..is that those cartoons ...are oh so right! Which is just sad!
Posted by: does it really matter? at February 10, 2006 08:31 PM