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I was going to make a Netflix Queue post out of this, but: After just five episodes of "Mad Men," I'm giving up. Good lord, that's a boring show.
Let me pitch it to you: "We watch people go to work every day! In the SIXTIES!"
Don Draper isn't seductive and beguiling. He's just boring. Why is this show so beloved?
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Don Draper - Badder than Billy Dee Williams
You have to wait until Season 2, Episode 3 for this little gem of a scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-jlM7MxvZc
In fairness to Draper, this was after she sexually assaulted him in the car in a hail storm. I think my wife liked this scene more than I.
I think the a lot of the draw of the show is nostalgia for and/or the otherworldliness of the period. There isn't too much originality in the various sub-plots, but I am intrigued by the mystery surrounding Draper's past (a lot of which is revealed in the first season), and that helps pull me along. In comparison to most other dramas on the small screen, the production values are exceedingly high, and I'd much rather watch a well-acted, directed and set decorated show than any one of a thousand CSI knock-offs.
RE: Don Draper
We're standing in friendly territory again, K. Must be yesterday's full moon. ...
I enjoy the writing (which tops most everything on regular network television), and I think the performances are superb. Yes, I think nostalgia plays a big part in it. I watch it and have a window into the life my father led working in Midtown Manhattan at exactly the same time (he'd have been the same age as Peter Campbell). And in perceive a subtle but relentless sense of doom that hangs over the whole show. I'm always waiting for something truly awful to happen — and lot of sad things have happened — but, for the most part, the "payoff" never comes. Which makes the sense of impending doom in my head only grow.
Also, let's not discount the female eye candy, which ain't too shabby. My wife gets a hoot out of how the dames "use what they got" to acquire their own power in the office — rendering the savvy execs into simpering puppy dogs who follow them around. And, of course, there's the appeal of one of the show's real heroes, Peggy — who moves from the typing pool to copyrighter and keeps asserting herself and proving a success.
Can't account for one's personal taste, of course. If Joel don't take to it, he don't take to it. It's not like all of us have had a lukewarm reaction to "must see" shows all the "smart people" rave about. In fact, that's a great topic for a future thread or forum.
copyrighter
copyrighter
AAARGH!
RE copyrighter
What, are you implying that she doesn't have the rights to what she writes? I'm not sure your right.
RE: copyrighter
You guys are wrong. I'm write.
Not MY Right
Your both rong.
Accounting for personal taste
I kept watching it, thinking: "Is it ME? What am I missing?" Some things find you and some things don't.
Going With Joel in Spirit on This One (Mad Men), Because
... I'm the guy who listened to a jangling, irritating theme song, watched 15 minutes of the first episode, and never, ever gave another thought to "Friends." Friends and I were never on the same wavelength, but it was for mysterious reasons staggeringly popular.
This happens to me more with cable shows because I am something of an old-fashioned square, so shows like "That 70's Show" don't draw me because of how incredibly inaccurate they are about the period surrounding my existence. I think Mad Men would turn out the same way for me, if I gave it a go.
Maybe some day. Until then, me and the missus have to finish off this 5th season of Babylon 5 (grin)...
"There's a reason we don't quote Hitler when we discuss highway spending. It just puts too much noise into your signal." Joel, 2010
Your mind is ruined
Joel,
I suspect your mind has been ruined from watching too much Deal or No Dancing with America's Top Survivor Idol shows. You're probably a huge fan of "reality" TV, and have thus lost the appreciation of nuance and subtlety required to "get" a show like Mad Men.
I mean really, this is one of the few well written and produced shows to come out of TV land in the last few years. It's cool to see the director's take on what people who lived through the historic changes of the 60s actually thought of those times as they were happening.
And just wait until you get to season 3. The scene with the John Deere will rock your world. Just pay attention to the awesome gallows humor afterward.
Holy Crap
Holy crap, that was two minutes and forty seconds of the least pleasant TV I've seen in I cannot imagine how long. Acting bad, lame plan américain framing, overly mannered aping of the most superficial aspects of the time -- everyone holds a drink, even while walking, even though clearly no one's had any experience with walking with a drink since they all nearly spill! Everyone smokes even though none of them have any idea how to hold a cigarette like it isn't an angry tarantula! -- all shattered by Tarantino-level splatter horror.
I'd sooner watch the worst Stephen King movies over and over than ever see a single frame of video from Mad Men ever again.
Worst Stephen King Movies Wish
crywalt, tamp down the hyperbole a bit would you? I've seen parts of Maximum Overdrive.
John Deere scene
I didn't watch the JD scene until after crywalt railed against it. I have to say I'm a bit disappointed. It's nothing like the first part of the series that I have seen. Crywalt, don't base your opinion of the show solely on that clip.
Hyperbole Overdrive
I should note that I've never had even the vaguest quiver of a desire to watch Mad Men anyway.
The Stephen King movie I was thinking of most was Christine, which had a mix of sick nostalgia, basic incompetence, and gore similar to this clip. But I think I'd even willingly watch The Mangler over Mad Men at this point. At least The Lawnmower Man is honest about what it's up to. "Lapidus! Put down that Silicon Graphics Iris machine!"
Lawnmower Man: How Did We Come to This?
true story: some years ago, when the missus was in grad school and we only had one kid, we were live-in housekeepers for one of the founders of Silicon Graphics.
"There's a reason we don't quote Hitler when we discuss highway spending. It just puts too much noise into your signal." Joel, 2010
Et tu, Emaw?
Can't be bothered with "American Idol." Too busy catching up on back episodes of "Castle" online.
And I'm going with crywalt on this one: That is the most boring three minutes of video ever to include a lawnmower maiming.
That said: crywalt, what the hell DO you like? I can't remember a show you've said anything good about.
TeeVee Likes
You mean you haven't been combing back issues of TeeVee.org looking for my positive reviews? I'm sad now.
What do I like? Being cranky, apparently. Oh, you mean TV shows. Let's see. You'll be happy to hear I really liked Firefly but I didn't catch on until after it was canceled. These days my TiVo is recording Lost, which I really enjoy but find endlessly frustrating; all the Law & Orders although I've been deleting the original series without watching it for a season and a half; oh, and we've really gotten a kick out of Modern Family. It doesn't hurt that Sofia Vergara is one of the most ridiculously hot women in California right now.
And Big Bang Theory is simply sublime.
Pretty much everything else sucks big hot hairy purple moose balls.
Jamie Oliver
One more thing: We've watched the first two episodes of Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. Basically Jamie Oliver, celebrity chef, decided to come to America to save our most unhealthy city, some burg in West Virginia. Apparently everyone there is dying of obesity and diabetes and so forth including dogs, cats and goldfish. And Jamie will save them with his fantastic healthy food!
Honestly, I'm on both sides with this program. I don't happen to think changing your diet will help your obesity. As a middle-aged fat guy with diabetes, though, I'm clearly biased. However, I like real food made with real ingredients and I think a lot of Western industrial processed food is crap. So I appreciate what he's trying to do. For the first two episodes he's focused mainly on taking over the cafeteria of a grade school in attempt to show that he can give the kids good, healthy, school lunches (and breakfasts). On his first day there he witnesses the kids having pizza for breakfast, so, you know, Jamie's already looking pretty good.
Here's the thing I think makes the show interesting for readers of this blog, though: Jamie ends up going through the classic phases of liberal government meddling. He starts with the assumption that, given a choice between pizza, french fries and Day-Glo pink artificially flavored strawberry milk and his roast chicken, salad and fruit, the children will choose his meal. Of course they don't. So Jamie completely contradicts his earlier statements and says of course, given a side-by-side choice, his food can't win. Thus the next day he offers the kids no choice -- there's only his food. This time the kids simply don't eat anything and all his food is thrown away. So the next time Jamie serves the kids, he says of course they didn't eat the food, they had no idea how good it was! He therefore goes out into the dining room and cajoles the kids into eating and offers them a sticker if they simply try to eat some of this new wholesome food. Jamie even gets the principal and some teachers in on the act. Even this is something of a failure, though, so finally Jamie calls a meeting with the parents of the students and throws a big demonstration of all the bad food the kids will eat, including a dumpster full of raw animal fat to represent the fat content of an entire year's worth of school lunches. And, oh, the parents are upset!
It's a perfect liberal do-gooder arc. First, they're certain their reforms will be embraced by everyone. When they're not, make them compulsory, since clearly people don't know what's good for them. When that doesn't work, incentivize. When even that fails, roll out the scare tactics and the enforcers.
Also, by the end of the second episode the footage essentially admits that Jamie's failed: His food costs more than twice the allocated budget and requires significantly more preparation time. Double the materials cost, increased labor cost, and a product no one wants? Sounds like government!
It's a lovely little show. I feel for Jamie because, yes, school food is pretty nasty and it would be nice if it were better. I know from up close how bad school food bureaucracy can be -- my mother was a lunch lady for 15 years. I saw her paperwork and the notes from the school dietitian. It's hilarious and stupid. And Jamie comes across as a really committed, nice guy who sincerely wants to help people and make them great food. But his show is a perfect object lesson in the evils of being too much of a big-government liberal.
Re: Jamie Oliver
There's an article in this just crying out to be written, Chris.
Article
I think I pretty much just wrote it. I was wondering where I'd post it.
AP
Looks like I was just ahead of the Associated Press.
TeeVee Likes for crywalt
I would also recommend the "balcony scenes" at the end of Boston Legal episodes. The little vignettes between Spade and Shatner are usually priceless BUT DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WATCH ANY OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE SHOW UNLESS YOU ARE KHABALOX OR JOEL or your head will asplode
I wish they would release a dvd of just the balcony scenes.
Seen Scene
I actually saw one of those once. It was fun. I think I may have seen parts of the rest of the show also but I don't remember....
...once...
I also saw exactly one balcony scene. One of them, I think Shat, was wearing a chicken costume. I thought I might have been hallucinating at the time.