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The case of three Navy SEALs facing court martial for striking a terrorist captive in custody is the latest story of U.S. servicemen who may have gone too far in the course of fighting America's war against jihadists. But Americans have done much worse than that, Warren Kozak writes in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal:
You don't have to dig too deep to understand that war brings out behavior in people that they would never demonstrate in normal life. In Paul Fussell's moving memoir, "The Boys' Crusade," the former infantryman relates a story about the liberation of Dachau. There were about 120 SS guards who had been captured by the Americans. Even though the Germans were being held at gunpoint, they still had the arrogance—or epic stupidity—to continue to heap verbal abuse and threats on the inmates. Their American guards, thoroughly disgusted by what they had already witnessed in the camp, had seen enough and opened fire on the SS. Some of the remaining SS guards were handed over to the inmates who tore them limb from limb. Another war crime? No doubt. Justified? It depends on your point of view. But before you weigh in, realize that you didn't walk through the camp. You didn't smell it. You didn't witness the obscene horror of the Nazis.
Earlier, Kozak recounts a similar story about German and American POWs during the Battle of the Bulge. "Was the U.S. a lesser country because these GIs weren't arrested? Was the Constitution jeopardized?" he asks. "Somehow it survived."
Perhaps. But no worse for wear?
Men have struggled over the centuries to find a "permanent peace." The League of Nations even made a treaty once. Abolishing war is a folly. But maybe the greater folly is the effort to civilize it.
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It is patently absurd
to court martial these three men based upon what I know. But it could be even more absurd for me to not understand the emotions that led to the mutilations at the bridge that day in Iraq War II.
The single-most flagrant atrocity of war by the USA (allies) of my lifetime, which I lay directly at the feet of GHWB, occurred when the Iraqis (and families) were retreating from Kuwait on what has become known as the highway of death. It was a truly sad day in our history, even as it has been somewhat erased from the national memory.
http://deoxy.org/wc/wc-death.htm
This Administration Extends More Generosity for the Holiday
(free from press interference) Season:
"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended ..."
h/tip to Baldilocks
Is INTERPOL being loosed in the USA? That should make rounding up them dang war criminals easier!
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"Don't confuse political savvy with competence or principles." -- RobbL, 2009
INTERPOL
It's hard to tell, because you cut off the quote before they got to what the amendment to the Executive Order is actually doing, and you didn't provide a link to the full text.
So from my reading, Reagan granted INTERPOL all the rights that certain other International Organizations are granted, save:
Clinton reinstated the 2nd "right" (privilege?) I listed, and Obama reinstated the rest. I'm not too concerned about the taxes, but the immunity to search is a bit perplexing. But I guess to answer your question, no, INTERPOL is not being loosed in the US, at least, not anymore than it was already.
INTERPOL ?: I cut off the quote and link because
it was actually a question; not rhetorical.
So, I needed a little help from my friends wrapping my head around the issue. Thanks!
Re: Interpol
Very disappointed that the INTERPOL discussion is not on the best albums of the decade thread.
INTERPOL: Best Album of the Decade?
I was always and ever will be a big fan of that drummer, Stewart Copeland
Re: Interpol
That's why I love you, Wry.
I dumb
I spent 3-4 minutes Googling and wondering to myself, "Really? Did Stewart Copeland play on one of those Interpol records? How did I miss that?" THEN I got the joke.
Speaking of Interpol, not only did I enjoy their records, but I dug the "Julian Plenti" solo project, too. Good stuff.
INTERPOL:
... is a band?! O.o
The folly of civilizing war
I guess we should apologize to the Nazis we hanged after World War II, then.
Don't get me wrong: I'm very sympathetic to the idea that it's a folly to try to civilize war. It's why I'm dubious of the "just war" theory -- the intentions can be just, but the results rarely are. Still: I recognize that war is sometimes necessary. And I also recognize the necessity -- even if folly -- of trying to draw some lines of conduct.
Otherwise, there's no act committed in the name of war -- or, say, "national security" -- that is too heinous. It is simply war, and war is hell and all the rest. The prosecution of war crimes becomes an arbitrary act, based on winners and losers instead of right and wrong.
Perhaps that is the world we live in. But we should resist it, in the name of civilization if nothing else. Otherwise we're just brute creatures, more technologically advanced than monkeys, sure, but no more advanced in our moral code.