The Ben and Joel Podcast: Can Barack Obama turn the country around?

Questions considered in this podcast:

• Can Barack Obama get Americans to believe that the country is on the "right track" again?

• Should Obama's administration investigate its predecessors for war crimes?

• Is "The Office" a comedy or a tragedy?

• Does PBS' series on comedy, "Make 'Em Laugh" make anybody want to laugh?

Music heard in this podcast:

• "The Prelude from Carmen," Orchestre De L'Opéra National De Paris

• "Knives Out," from "Rockabye Baby! Lullabye Renditions of Radiohead"

• "The Office," The Scrantones

• "Make 'Em Laugh," Donald O'Connor

• "Dancing Choose," TV on the Radio

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I cannot emphasize enough...

...how anti-funny Make 'Em Laugh is. The clips are good, though.

Your Pod Cast

Thank you both for 29 minutes mostly worth listening too. This is the first pod-cast I've heard with you two, so forgive me if I can't get down who's who by voice/name. I listened because I read this blog on a fairly regular basis and saw that you'd be discussing The Office. Oh My Gosh. Funniest show I've seen in a very long time. And, no, I was never a Seinfeld fan. Season Five is not yet playing in Saudi - I will have to buy it on DVD next fall in the States. "Not a comedy but a tragedy." Cannot it not be both? There are some absolutely hysterical lines in that show! I've watched all four seasons over and over and still laugh at the same lines.

As far as Obama and "we don't know what he is going to do," "we don't know what he is capable of." That in and of itself should scare people to death. The man frightens me!

Should Obama's administration go after Bush and his administration for war crimes? Heck no. Who ever said - one of you two - that the "domestic challenges are going to be enough," hit that nail square on the head. Bush's administration "erred on the side of over reaction?" Are you kidding? He didn't react enough. That was part of his - and his administration's problem. Why were we all privy to what was being done to detainees and other criminals in the first place? We shouldn't have been. Do you think other countries print in their newspapers what they are doing to criminals? No. And, by the way, the U.S. doesn't hold a candle to the way other countries torture their criminals. William Sampson has a thing or two to say about that. So does Keith Carmichael.

"Saving is going to hurt us." No. Saving is the only way people are going to be able to get through this economy. The only thing that is hurting us is government spending. Perhaps if the government would quit spending our money for us on such frivolous things we would have a little more that we could spend. And, that is precisely why the new administration - starting from tomorrow - CANNOT put the economy back on track.

You may try to refrain from being able to say, "Well Bush did it worse," Joel [I hope I have correctly identified you - and if I have this backwards, my apologies], but I suspect it will be quite clear in the short-term that there is no way Obama is going to be able to do anything better! I will not refrain at any chance I can to "twist the knife" [Ben?] because it will be so well deserved. That is not to say that I want to see our Country fail, I do not. But I am convinced that with Obama at the helm we don't stand a chance of success for as long as he is our POTUS and CIC. If I am proved wrong at the end of his [hopefully] short four-year term, then I will be the first to admit it.

Man oh man, I so wish we could watch video on Hulu, here, in Saudi. I'd be watching The Office right now! I could use a good laugh. The next few days are going to be nothing but Obama 24/7 and I will not put myself through that agony. $160,000,000 for his party in this economy. The man is a disgrace and should be ashamed.

Re: Your Pod Cast

Thanks for listening and thanks for taking the extra time to comment from halfway around the world. For the record, I never said I wouldn't twist the knife when things go horribly wrong -- and they will! I merely said I wouldn't twist the knife quite as hard as I might. There is a big difference.

That's correct

I anticipate Ben, when he slips the knife in, will be like one of those movie serial killers who looks at me sympathetically and tries to shush me even as the light fades from my shocked eyes.

Or is that taking the metaphor too far?

OK.

Maybe too far.

Thanks...

...for reminding me of one of the most unnerving scenes from "Saving Private Ryan" - now I won't be able to sleep tonight.

THAT was it!

Thank you! I couldn't remember where I'd seen that. I think it was in a few other movies, too, but that was a pretty scary version of it.

Re: That's correct

I would look you right in the eye when I did it, Joel. I wouldn't stab you in the back, like some people I know.

Uh-oh

Did I do something? Miss something? Miss a reference?

Re: Uh-oh

I refer, of course, to Hillary Clinton stabbing Vince Foster in the back and cleverly staging it as a suicide. With a Democrat about to re-enter the White House, it's important to get those conspiracy theories back into circulation.

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